Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/02/1993 01:37 PM House FIN

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                     HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                   
                          March 2, 1993                                        
                            1:37 p.m.                                          
                                                                               
  TAPE HFC 93-34, Side 2, #000 - end.                                          
  TAPE HFC 93-35, Side 1, #000 - end.                                          
  TAPE HFC 93-35, Side 2, #000 - #212                                          
                                                                               
  CALL TO ORDER                                                                
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson called the House  Finance Committee to order                 
  at 1:37 p.m.                                                                 
                                                                               
  PRESENT                                                                      
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson             Representative Hoffman                           
  Co-Chair MacLean            Representative Martin                            
  Vice-Chair Hanley           Representative Navarre                           
  Representative Brown        Representative Parnell                           
  Representative Foster       Representative Therriault                        
  Representative Grussendorf                                                   
                                                                               
  ALSO PRESENT                                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative  Kott;  Mike  Greany,  Director,  Legislative                 
  Finance Division; Nancy Bear-Usera, Commissioner, Department                 
  of  Administration;  John   Bitney,  Staff,   Representative                 
  Larson.                                                                      
  SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                          
                                                                               
  HB 55     "An Act  making appropriations  for the  operating                 
            and loan program expenses  of state government and                 
            to  capitalize   funds;  and   providing  for   an                 
            effective date."                                                   
                                                                               
            HB 55 HELD in Committee.                                           
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson presented  members with a FY  93/94 Spending                 
  Plan   prepared   by   the   Legislative  Finance   Division                 
  (Attachment 1).   He reviewed Attachment  1.  He noted  that                 
  Attachment 1  includes roll-forward funding  and settlements                 
  to the State of Alaska prior to July 1, 1992.                                
                                                                               
  Representative  Martin  asked  if RPL's  authorized  by  the                 
  Legislative Budget and  Audit Committee  on January 8,  1993                 
  are included  in adjustments  to revenue.   Co-Chair  Larson                 
  interjected that there  are no  settlements included in  the                 
  adjustments to revenues.                                                     
                                                                               
  MIKE   GREANY,   DIRECTOR,   LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE   DIVISION                 
  clarified  that  revised programs  will  be included  in the                 
                                                                               
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  conference committee reports.                                                
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson noted that  FY 94 revenues are based  on the                 
  Department of Revenue's mid scenario fall 1994 forecast.  He                 
  pointed out  that FY  94 revenues  minus  FY 94  anticipated                 
  expenditures result in a $25.4 million dollar deficient.                     
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson  provided members  with a  handout from  the                 
  Legislative Finance  Division summarizing the  Governor's FY                 
  94 Operating Budget  (Attachment 2).   He presented  members                 
  with  a  handout  from  the  Legislative  Finance  Division,                 
  Analysis  of FY 93  Authorized to  FY 94  Governor's Request                 
  General Funds Only  (Attachment 3).   He concluded that  the                 
  formula  programs  have increased  by $16.9  million dollars                 
  (including  supplementals.)     He  added  that  non-formula                 
  programs  for  FY 94  will  exceed  FY 93  by  $20.8 million                 
  dollars.  The total  FY 94 request is $37.7  million dollars                 
  above FY 93 authorized.                                                      
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson pointed out budget  amendments will add $8.8                 
  million dollars  in formula  general fund  dollars and  $5.9                 
  million in non-formula general fund dollars.  He noted  that                 
  an additional $5 million general fund dollars will be needed                 
  as a result of HB 158.  The supplemental request if approved                 
  will add $11.1 million dollars in formula programs and $29.4                 
  million dollars in non-formula programs.   He concluded that                 
  the total FY 94  budget would be $100 million  dollars above                 
  the FY 93 authorized budget.                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre stressed  the importance of inclusion                 
  of  FY  93  supplementals in  calculating  FY  93 authorized                 
  totals.  He spoke against across the board cuts.                             
                                                                               
  Representative Martin  suggested  that  there  is  waste  in                 
  government spending that  can be  addressed through  further                 
  reductions.    He  agreed with  Representative  Navarre that                 
  supplemental appropriations  and RPL  appropriations by  the                 
  Legislative Budget and Audit Committee should be included in                 
  calculating final  FY 93  authorized levels.   He  suggested                 
  that funding reduced by the  Conference Committee was funded                 
  during  the  interim  by the  Legislative  Budget  and Audit                 
  Committee.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre emphasized that the FY  93 Conference                 
  Committee  held  all  their  deliberations  in public.    He                 
  pointed  out  that,  for  the  first  time,  the  Conference                 
  Committee budget was lower than  the House or Senate version                 
  of the budget.  He stressed that he has worked to remove the                 
  opportunity for "back door" approaches to funding.                           
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson reiterated that the FY 94 requested level is                 
  above the FY 93 authorized level.                                            
                                                                               
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  Representative  Navarre commented that  there is no category                 
  in government called "fat and inefficiency".                                 
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson interjected that a seven member subcommittee                 
  has   been  created  to  consider  HB  56,  Formula/Mandated                 
  Programs.  The subcommittee consists of Co-Chair Larson, Co-                 
  Chair  MacLean,  Representative  Grussendorf, Representative                 
  Hanley,   Representative   Navarre,   Speaker   Barnes   and                 
  Representative Moses.                                                        
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Larson discussed the  procedure to be  used by the                 
  Committee  during  budget  closeouts.    He  explained  that                 
  subcommittee  chairmen  will   present  the   subcommittee's                 
  recommendations.   The Governor's  FY 94 Proposed  Operating                 
  Budget will be  used as the  base.  House Finance  Committee                 
  members will vote on the  subcommittee recommendations.  Any                 
  components  objected  to by  a  member  will  be held  open.                 
  Amendments  must be submitted in  written form.  He stressed                 
  that potential amendments should be indicated at the time of                 
  the subcommittee closeouts but that they will be acted on at                 
  a later date.   He stated that components closed  would need                 
  to be reopened in order to amend.                                            
                                                                               
  Representative   Navarre   stressed   the    importance   of                 
  maintaining flexibility to offer amendments.                                 
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                 
                                                                               
  Department  of  Administration   Subcommittee  consists   of                 
  Representatives Larson, Kott, Green, Brown and Hoffman.                      
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Larson  provided  members with  a  summary  of the                 
  Department  of  Administration House  Finance Subcommittee's                 
  proposed decrements (Attachment 4).   He reviewed Attachment                 
  4.    He  noted that  the  subcommittee's  recommendation is                 
  $400.00 hundred dollars over their target reduction level.                   
                                                                               
       *    Longevity  Bonus  Administration,   $5.0  thousand                 
            dollar reduction.                                                  
                                                                               
  Subcommittee  Chair   MOVED  to  adopt   the  subcommittee's                 
  recommendation,   Longevity   Bonus   Administration,   $5.0                 
  thousand dollar reduction.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was                 
  so ordered.                                                                  
                                                                               
       *    Pioneers    Homes,    $389.9    thousand   dollars                 
            unallocated reduction                                              
                                                                               
            This represents a 1.3 percent reduction.                           
                                                                               
  Subcommittee Chair Larson MOVED  to adopt the subcommittee's                 
                                                                               
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  recommendation,  Pioneers  Homes,  $389.9  thousand  dollars                 
  unallocated reduction.   Representative  Navarre OBJECTED.                   
  Co-Chair  Larson stressed  that other  senior programs  have                 
  been cut while  pioneer homes have  been held harmless.   He                 
  noted  that  it is  the  subcommittee's intention  to reduce                 
  funding  to  pioneer  homes  in  order  to  prevent  further                 
  reduction to senior programs.                                                
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre  asked if deferred  maintenance would                 
  be   reduced.     Co-Chair  Larson   agreed  that   deferred                 
  maintenance may  be affected.   Representative Navarre asked                 
  if  it  is  the intent  of  the  subcommittee  to allow  the                 
  Department  of Administration to have discretion in applying                 
  the reduction.                                                               
                                                                               
  NANCY BEAR-USERA, COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                 
  stated that deferred  maintenance for  the pioneer homes  is                 
  generally included in  the capital  budget.  She  emphasized                 
  that deferred maintenance  would be affected if  funding was                 
  not available for  interim repairs.  She  stressed that each                 
  home would choose to apply reductions to  different areas of                 
  their budget.                                                                
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre WITHDREW HIS OBJECTION.                               
                                                                               
  Representative Grussendorf OBJECTED.  Commissioner Usera was                 
  unable  to specify the  area of reductions.   She emphasized                 
  the need for a thorough assessment.   The component was HELD                 
  open.                                                                        
                                                                               
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 93-35, Side 1)                                             
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  noted that  the  Mental Health  Trust                 
  Board  has  recommended  that  $821.1  thousand  dollars  be                 
  appropriated for  care of  alzheimer victims.   Subcommittee                 
  Chair Larson agreed that this request will be discussed at a                 
  later date.                                                                  
                                                                               
       *    Older  Alaskan  Services  Project   Choice,  $10.0                 
            thousand dollar reduction                                          
                                                                               
            The start-up of Project Choice would be delayed by                 
            one  month or the program would  be reduced by one                 
            position for three months.  $42.4 thousand dollars                 
            would be shifted from general fund to inter agency                 
            receipts.                                                          
                                                                               
  Subcommittee Chair Larson MOVED to  adopt the subcommittee's                 
  recommendation, Older Alaskan Services Project Choice, $10.0                 
  thousand dollar reduction.                                                   
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  Representative  Brown  offered Amendment  1  (Attachment 5).                 
  She  noted her  objection to  closure of  the Older  Alaskan                 
  (OAC)  Commission's  budget.   She  noted  her  intention to                 
  increase  the  OAC,  Nutrition,  Transportation and  Support                 
  component  (Attachment  5).     Amendment  1  was   HELD  in                 
  Committee.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Members discussed  the amendment  process.  Co-Chair  Larson                 
  assured members that amendments would not be precluded.                      
                                                                               
  Co-Chair   MacLean  restated   the   motion  to   adopt  the                 
  subcommittee's   recommendation,   Older   Alaskan  Services                 
  Project  Choice,  $10.0 thousand  dollar  reduction.   There                 
  being NO OBJECTION,  it was so ordered.   She noted that the                 
  rest of the OAC component would be HELD open.                                
                                                                               
  Representative Martin noted his objection to personal use of                 
  frequent flyer miles gained through state business.                          
                                                                               
       *    Public Defender, $166.8 thousand dollar reduction.                 
            This  recommendation  is  2.2  percent  below  the                 
            Governor's  FY  93  request.   This  represents an                 
            increase of $350.0 thousand dollars over the FY 93                 
            authorized level.  The  supplemental FY 93 request                 
            would add  $383.0 thousand  dollars to  the FY  93                 
            authorized level if approved.                                      
                                                                               
  Subcommittee Chair Larson MOVED to  adopt the subcommittee's                 
  recommendation,  Public  Defender,  $166.8  thousand  dollar                 
  reduction.   Representative Navarre  OBJECTED.  He requested                 
  that the component be HELD open.  Subcommittee Chair  Larson                 
  pointed out that the subcommittee's recommendation  includes                 
  the  FY 93  authorized level  and a  $347.7 thousand  dollar                 
  supplemental  request minus $47.7 thousand dollars.  Members                 
  discussed  funding  for the  Public Defender.   Subcommittee                 
  Chair  Larson pointed out that the Public Defender's and the                 
  Office of Public Advocacy's budgets are increasing more than                 
  the Prosecutor's budget.  Members further discussed closeout                 
  procedures.   The Public Defender component was HELD open.                   
                                                                               
  Subcommittee  Chair  Larson noted  that  there is  a funding                 
  shift in the OAC, Project Choice component.                                  
                                                                               
  JOHN BITNEY, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE LARSON explained that the                 
  $42.4 thousand dollar reduction is a fund source change from                 
  the Department of Administration to  inter agency receipts.                  
  General funds are  being transferred from the  Department of                 
  Health   and  Social  Services  for  administration  of  the                 
  program.  Subcommittee  Chair Larson MOVED that  the funding                 
  shift be  accepted.   There being  NO OBJECTION,  it was  so                 
  ordered.                                                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               
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       *    Office of Public  Advocacy, $14.1 thousand  dollar                 
            reduction                                                          
                                                                               
            This  represents FY  93  authorized plus  a $400.0                 
            thousand  dollar  increase.     The   supplemental                 
            request   is  $616.4   thousand   dollars.     The                 
            subcommittee's recommendation is  $14.1 below  the                 
            FY 93 authorized and supplemental request.                         
                                                                               
  Representative Brown pointed  out that the Office  of Public                 
  Advocacy (OPA)  has been  short-funded in  past years.   She                 
  asked that the Office of Public Advocacy be HELD open.                       
                                                                               
  Representative  Navarre  asked  for   information  regarding                 
  indigent recovery.   He asked if the  OPA will need a  FY 94                 
  supplemental.  He reiterated the need  to incorporate the FY                 
  93 supplemental amount to the authorized FY 93 level.                        
                                                                               
  Commissioner   Usera   observed  that   the   Department  of                 
  Administration   recommended   legislation  to   reduce  OPA                 
  caseload   by   eliminating   non-constitutionally  mandated                 
  functions  from  their  purview.   The  recommendations were                 
  removed  from the  omnibus bill.   Caseload savings  are not                 
  anticipated.  The Department of Administration has maximized                 
  management  of  OPA.    The  Department has  maintained  the                 
  program's cost despite a growing caseload.                                   
                                                                               
  Commissioner Usera commented on rule 39.  She explained that                 
  the Supreme Court has provided for cost recovery of indigent                 
  defense.  Rule 39 allows the Department of Administration to                 
  attach permanent fund dividend checks of those convicted for                 
  indigent defense.  She clarified that  there is a three year                 
  delay  of recover  upon release.   Cost  recovery would  not                 
  occur for four years.                                                        
                                                                               
  The Office of Public Advocacy was HELD open.                                 
                                                                               
       *    Office  of  Commissioner,  $54.0  thousand  dollar                 
            unallocated reduction                                              
                                                                               
            All components in the Office of Commissioner would                 
            be included.                                                       
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre OBJECTED.                                             
                                                                               
  Commissioner Usera  expressed concern  that core  government                 
  services suffer from cuts due  to the political inability to                 
  reduce popular programs.  She  understood that the reduction                 
  could be taken  from operational  components in services  to                 
  state  agency.    Representative Navarre  stressed  that the                 
  reduction is out of the  general government category.  There                 
  being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                       
                                                                               
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       *    Alaska Public Offices  Commission (APOC),  replace                 
            $26.5 general  fund program receipts  with general                 
            fund dollars.                                                      
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre  asked  if  lobbyist  fees  could  be                 
  raised  or  filing   fees  for  public  office   instituted.                 
  Subcommittee Chair Larson agreed that  it would be possible.                 
  Representative   Navarre   suggested   that  the   Committee                 
  introduce legislation  to increase revenues through  fees to                 
  APOC.  There being NO OBJECTION  to the reduction, it was so                 
  ordered.                                                                     
                                                                               
       *    Information   Services,   $60.0   thousand  dollar                 
            reduction                                                          
                                                                               
  Commissioner   Usera   noted   that   the   Department    of                 
  Administration budgets  for maintenance.   Surplus funds are                 
  transferred  to the  Information  Services  Fund for  future                 
  acquisitions.    This  reduction  would  reduce  the  amount                 
  available for future acquisitions.                                           
                                                                               
  Subcommittee Chair Larson MOVED to adopt  the subcommittee's                 
  recommendation, Information Services, $60.0  thousand dollar                 
  reduction.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                     
                                                                               
  Subcommittee Chair Larson  provided members  with a list  of                 
  increment  requests  for  the  Department of  Administration                 
  (Attachment 6).  The subcommittee did not approve any of the                 
  requests.  He observed that the House  Finance Committee can                 
  choose to act on additional requests at another time.                        
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown clarified  that the  increment request                 
  for  OAC/Nutrition services was for $190.2 thousand dollars.                 
  She added  that the request  for Foster Care  Review program                 
  was $200.0 thousand dollars.                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative  Hanley pointed  out that  the Department  of                 
  Health and  Social Services, House  Finance Subcommittee  is                 
  contemplating  funding  of  increment  requests through  the                 
  Mental Health Trust Account.                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative  Grussendorf  asked when  amendments  will be                 
  considered.    Co-Chair  Larson  stated  that  it  would  be                 
  appropriate  to note the intention of amendment at any time.                 
  He added that amendments will be considered at a later date.                 
                                                                               
  Representative  Hoffman  noted  that  as  a  member  of  the                 
  Department of Administration  House Finance Subcommittee  he                 
  would have voted for approval of an increment for the Public                 
  Broadcasting Commission.  The  increment failed on a 4  to 4                 
  vote.  Representative Hoffman was absent from the meeting.                   
                                                                               
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  Members further  discussed  which components  would be  held                 
  open.  Only components formally closed would  require a vote                 
  to reopen for amendment.                                                     
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 93-35, Side 2)                                             
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  stated that  she  would like  to hold                 
  everything open that  is not  specifically closed.   Members                 
  further  discussed  the amendment  process.   Representative                 
  Grussendorf  stressed   that  caps   prevent  members   from                 
  supporting needed programs.                                                  
                                                                               
  Representative Foster provided the Committee with  Amendment                 
  2  (Attachment  7).   Amendment 2  is  an increment  for the                 
  Public Broadcasting Commission.                                              
                                                                               
  Representative Grussendorf spoke in support of Amendment  2.                 
  He noted that the  cut of $300.0 thousand dollars  to Public                 
  Broadcasting  is  compounded  by  the  addition of  two  new                 
  stations.  Subcommittee  Chair Larson OBJECTED to  Amendment                 
  2.  He asked that Amendment 2 be HELD open.  Amendment 2 was                 
  HELD open.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Subcommittee Chair Larson  provided members  with a list  of                 
  potential   legislation  (Attachment   8).     He   reviewed                 
  Attachment 8:                                                                
                                                                               
       *    Provide APOC with authority to charge fees;                        
                                                                               
       *    Allow state option to self-insure for group health                 
            or group life insurance for state employees;                       
                                                                               
       *    Delete spouse coverage  for group life  and health                 
            insurance in cases where coverage is duplicative;                  
                                                                               
       *    Possible legislation to allow RATNet to  host fund                 
            raisers;                                                           
                                                                               
       *    Transfer RATNet to Public Broadcasting;                            
                                                                               
       *    Tax credits for  corporate contributions to public                 
            broadcasting;                                                      
                                                                               
       *    Reduce  annual  cost   of  leasing  by  purchasing                 
            buildings;                                                         
                                                                               
       *    Legislation by the  administration to  consolidate                 
            senior services.                                                   
                                                                               
  Representative Brown introduced  Amendment 3 (Attachment 3).                 
  Amendment 3 was HELD in Committee.                                           
                                                                               
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  HB 55 was HELD in Committee.                                                 
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting adjourned at 3:25 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
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